Noted biographer James Curtis contacted me with an intriguing observation. Did a scene from the 1917 Arbuckle-Keaton short Oh Doctor! (above) reveal the large glass rooftop shooting stage of the former Biograph Studio, located at 807 E 175th St in the Bronx? A little digging not only confirmed he was right, but that 100 years later many Bronx locations from that film remain recognizable today. [Note: Arbuckle ended his career filming Vitaphone comedy shorts in Brooklyn – discussed in great detail HERE].
Wearing a borrowed police uniform, Roscoe chases jewel thief Al St. John across a vintage rooftop. Triangulating from the Biograph site, and traveling the streets using Google Street View, I was excited to see that two apartment buildings on Marmion Street are still standing today.
Because Roscoe’s roof (11) had an unobstructed view, and the maps from 1915, 1921, 1938, and 2017 reveal when different buildings were constructed, and demolished, my best guess is Roscoe filmed (11) on the former 5 story apartment at 864 E 175th, now replaced with a smaller building.
Once I had confirmed site (11), I contacted New York pop culture locations expert Bob Egan (PopSpotNYC.com), who had just identified Buster Keaton’s Manhattan apartment from The Cameraman in this prior post. Bob replied with a fascinating clue – that the opening credits to the early 60’s sitcom Car 54 Where Are You? reveal a view of the Biograph Studio where the show was filmed (see below).
The Car 54 view (6) down E 176th St provided a view of the segmented light and dark brick wall standing east of the Biograph laboratory building, a wall that appears frequently in Oh Doctor!
I should have done this first, but after searching the New York Public Library online digital collection I found an exact match to view (4) from Oh Doctor!
It turns out that Oh Doctor! and the subsequent Arbuckle – Keaton short Coney Island (1917 – see further below) both feature scenes filmed on E 176th in front of the Biograph laboratory building.
One challenge to investigating this site is that the northern side of E 176th St was demolished to make way for the Cross Bronx Expressway. One casualty is this drug store (left) that once stood at the NW corner of E 176th and Marmion. The same store appears at back in view (8) (right), as Roscoe drags Buster (dressed in drag to do a stunt fall for Roscoe’s wife) west along E 176th towards Marmion – the building to their right was lost to the expressway. In the next scene view (7) below, Roscoe’s wife confronts him standing at the same corner, only looking east down E 176th along the surviving south side of the street.
View (7) above looks east down E 176th from Marmion towards the extant Waterloo Apartments, both left of Roscoe, and the narrower apartment on the corner of Mohegan just to the right of Roscoe.
Views (9) and (10) above and below both depict the same corner apartment building that once stood at the NE corner of Marmion and E 175th. As shown below, two homes once stood next to the Biograph office across the street from the apartment.
The above diagram shows why I first knew it was likely (9) and (10) above were filmed at the corner of Marmion and E 175th, the only corner in the vicinity of the studio that had homes on the left side of the street and a large apartment on the right. The two scenes match the various maps and street slopes.
But thanks to eagle-eyed reader Mark E. Phillips, and his fascinating NYC in Film movie locations blog, this image of the corner he showed me from the NYC Municipal Archives confirms the corner site. For you Jackie Coogan fans, here’s the link to Mark’s New York locations post about The Rag Man (1925).
The fence of the home adjacent to the studio office appears below in 1913 and in view (9). Notice the matching low alternating fence design, and apparent gas lamp.
The home adjacent to the studio was replaced with a large apartment by 1921, but is now a vacant lot. The corner home (#825, see map above) is replaced by a large apartment still standing, while Buster’s 5 story corner apartment is now replaced with 2 story homes. Go figure.
The Biograph laboratory building on E 176th also portrayed the police station in the next Arbuckle – Keaton short Coney Island. During the concluding scene, Roscoe and Al St. John leave the station (view 3 left) after locking the police and Roscoe’s wife in a cell. No sooner do they vow to forsake all women when an enchantress walks by, prompting Al to proclaim “Each man for himself.”
In a racially insensitive final “joke” that was commonly employed by comedians at the time, Roscoe too notices the back of a woman pass by, and approaches her to say hello. But when she turns to greet him, revealing herself to be Black, Roscoe gasps and flees in shock as the movie fades to a close. Apparently this scene was excised from most prints of the film, but for historical completeness is presented as a supplement to the latest home video release of these films.
Oh Doctor! begins with Father Roscoe, Mother, and Son Buster arriving at a race track, where Roscoe flirts with another woman, and loses all of his money on a wild bet. The characters are depicted as arriving and departing from the race track by parking their cars in a residential neighborhood beside a rare conspicuous street sign at the NW corner of W 246th and Fieldston in the Bronx, see below.
New York pop culture locations expert Bob Egan (PopSpotNYC.com) came through again, by identifying the real track appearing in the film as the Yonkers Raceway.
I’ve documented 4 dozen instances of Keaton filming pickup shots from his various films in front of, or across the street from, his small studio in Hollywood. A perfectly practical thing to do. So it’s not surprising, but also fun to see, that Arbuckle did the same thing, staging so many shots conveniently close to his temporary Biograph home. Be sure to read about Arbuckle’s numerous Vitaphone Brooklyn locations HERE.
It wasn’t too long ago that Oh Doctor! was considered a lost film! We fans are all so fortunate that these films have been so lovingly restored by Lobster Films.
Oh Doctor! and Coney Island images from Buster Keaton: The Shorts Collection 1917 – 1923 (C) 2016 Kino-Lorber, Lobster Films.
View (7) of the apartments on Mohegan and Waterloo.
The greatest thing about old silent movies, is that when you view them you are seeing the past as it actually was – not as you’re told it was. Hunting down locations that may, or may not, still be around, seems an interesting pastime.
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Thanks John, for this great detective work! It’s endlessly facinating to see how you uncover this history!
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Thanks Hugh – it’s remarkable how many elements are still here, 100 years later.
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Enjoyed this very much. wonderful to read and look at. in Oh Doctor I noticed a street sign that was more likely a train sign that read 231STand wondered if it was shot in RIverdale or the east Bronx.
again, enjoyed this article very much.
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Thank you so much – I appreciate your message
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Hi John– I found some photographic support for the corner of Marmion and E 175th from “Oh Doctor!” on the municipal archives. I found two images of the corner building from the 1940s tax files. https://nycinfilm.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/ohdoctor-marmion-and-e-175th.jpg
You can find several matching elements from the film, including the vertical seam in-between windows 2 and 3 from the corner.
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Hi Mark – thank you so much for these great images. Are these tax files available online? Do they commonly have old photos attached, or was this an exception? Thanks again for the photos – John
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Yes, they are available online. I’m not sure if you’re aware but the NYC Municipal Archives recently released all the tax photos they took in the early 1940’s, thus providing an image of nearly every lot in all five boroughs. (There are occasional gaps here and there.)
I found these images by searching by borough, year taken and block number.
They are labeled as “1816 Marmion Avenue” and “1808 Marmion Avenue.”
http://nycma.lunaimaging.com/luna/servlet/view/search/where/Bronx/when/1939-1941?q=block%3d2958
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Great detective work. I had always assumed the track was Aqueduct!
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In view 4 the automobile… Its got a big “AB” American Biograph logo right out front likely used for copyright protection in the scenery of their films. Look closely.
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Good eye – I hadn’t noticed that AB before – thanks for sharing
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John, I came back and just had to look again at that car with the AB trade mark there by Fatty. Looking close it has the same emblem on back.What else do you see? Well its an underslung chassis. I think only 3 makers made cars like that. American, Stutz, and Regal. Well after some research I can tell you its a 1912 Regal 25 Colonial Coupe. You will notice its left hand drive. The electric lights on it are updated as is the claxon mounted on the side. I don’t know what it would be worth, but a 1912 American roadster sold for a million and a half thousand dollars not long ago. I enjoy your vintage movie research so much just saying. Leaving you with
My very best regards,
Carol Tenge
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Thank you so much Carol for this new information. I’ll update your photo caption. They don’t make cars like they used to – best regards, John
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